Comments on: The Reality of the Unreal http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-reality-of-the-unreal Awaken, Remember, Love Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:55:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: What do you want? Be specific! - The gift of duality « Can I follow your step, truthseeker? http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-831 What do you want? Be specific! - The gift of duality « Can I follow your step, truthseeker? Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:46:22 +0000 http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-831 [...] Erin Pavlina talks about lucid dreaming on her blogs quite a lot. She says the following quote from her entry Reality of the Unreal: [...]

]]> By: Amit C http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-830 Amit C Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:03:20 +0000 http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-830 Interesting post and newspaper article

Out of Body Experiences and the Brain
http://csn.livejournal.com/656858.html?view=2616282#t2616282

In one woman, for example, a zap to a brain region called the angular gyrus resulted in a sensation that she was hanging from the ceiling, looking down at her body. In another woman, electrical current delivered to the angular gyrus produced an uncanny feeling that someone was behind her, intent on interfering with her actions.

On a personal note, I do believe dreaming while with it’s occasional benefits takes one away from living life and seeing impact of one’s being. Unreal is just that, inspite of the experience, that is also why the exhilration on a computer game is not same as the real experience, but is a consolation for those who have only the unreal.

Amit C

]]> By: Michael Herzog http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-829 Michael Herzog Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:29:47 +0000 http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-829 As a friend of a person with MPD/DID I often had to challenge my the concept of reality. People with this disorder have a world inside their mind where identites are when they are not outside (in control of the body). It´s like a persistent lucid dream that feels absolutely real, and it also has effects on the experiences with the world that we all share. So when an identity breaks her leg on the inside, she will also be unable to walk with that leg on the outside, although there is nothing wrong with the outside body. And like lucid dreams this inside world can also be manipulated by identities with enough training.

If you are interested in this topic you should read “Set this house in order” by Matt Ruff. A great book that is both serious and funny, and you learn a lot about MPD/DID just by reading a story.

]]> By: the seeker http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-828 the seeker Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:33:30 +0000 http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-828 “All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all one consciousness experiencing it’s self subjectively. Life is but a dream, and we are an imagination of ourselves.”

I think it’s great that all of you are exploring the power of lucid dreaming. I didn’t see much on what I felt was the main thing Erin was trying to express. The fact that “real life” isn’t quite as solid as it seems. That we are the writers of our own story, life, Tao, ect…We are the creators of this dream world that is our life. We can change our life through altering our perception. For example think back to something bad in your life and find another way of looking at it. See it as a good thing. Then try to see problems that occur each day in a new light, see them as a test or challenge to over come.

Great post Erin,
Eric

]]> By: laura http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-827 laura Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:20:33 +0000 http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-827 “You know, take one for the team in the name of research right? ;) ”
You are too funny!

]]> By: Erin Pavlina http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-826 Erin Pavlina Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:36:48 +0000 http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-826 Rob: Wonderful questions! Here are my answers. I don’t think if I flew a 747 in a dream that I could fly one in real life. The controls would not be the same. However, I believe it’s possible, but not probable, that you can experience something accurately in a dream that you have not experienced in real life if conditions were such that you were receiving the information telepathically or from a past life or tapping into the time stream or accessing the mind of someone else, through remote viewing, etc. So in other words, I think there are ways to accurately do something in a dream you haven’t experienced while awake but it takes a skill set not normal to most people.

For the most part, what I feel and experience in a dream is mostly emotional and yeah, physical pain. I will try to think if I’ve ever done something in a dream that was more technical and then was able to do it in real life. If I think of anything like that, I’ll let you know.

Ben Affleck might have bad breath in real life, but for my intents and purposes, he was a damn fine kisser, and if the opportunity to compare real vs. dream were to ever present itself, I’d have to check it out and report back. You know, take one for the team in the name of research right? ;)

]]> By: Rob http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-825 Rob Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:21:02 +0000 http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-825 Hi Erin,

Awesome post! You really make us all think! Thank you.

How accurate are your dreams to real life? Let me put it this way….
If in your dream you are typing away at a keyboard and you stop and look down at the keys, can I assume that each key you see is exactly where you expect it to be? Is this because you know what the keyboards looks like in “real” life? What if on the other hand you have a dream that you are going to learn how to fly a 747 jumbo jet. You are sitting at the controls, and let’ say for a moment that you weren’t goint to ‘will’ the plane into the air. If a pilot in your dream taught you how to fly the plane, could you fly a real plane after a week, month or a year of training in your dreams? Would you not be under the assumption that each button, switch and knob is exactly where it actually is on the real plane? if you’ve never seen the cockpit of a 747 in “real” life , how can this experience you are getting at night be accurate? So..

1) Are your lucid dreams accurate only to the degree that you are aware of the specific details in “real” life (keys on a keyboard vs controls on an airplane)?

2) if the answer to number 1 is yes, then does this reduce the quality of the ‘experience’ of the lucid dream?

Where I am going with this is.. the experiences you shared in your bolg today were physical pain or emotions that you felt in your dreams. Some of those experiences cannot be reproduced in “real” life unless you want to be arrested by Ben Aflecks security guard. So I am looking at it from a logical perspective, if you can only manifest in your dream what you already know (or believe) to be accurate (keys on a keyboard), then how do you know that your feelings when kissing Ben, is what it would really feel like? Would you not be simply making up the kiss feeling similarily as you made up the placement of the airplane controls?

I am just suggesting that perhaps whatever you think you feel or have experienced may not be correct. You would be assuming you can get on to a real 747 and tell the captain how to fly the plane. So while the experiences are wonderful (I’d love to fly around and shoot lasers out of my hands) they may not be anywhere near the real thing. So if our purpose in life is to learn through experiences, should we use our dream experiences as lessons learned if their model may not be accruate?

Thanks again, Erin. Keep posting I love how YOUR thoughts are helping me create MY reality! It’s simply great!

]]> By: gr8face http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-824 gr8face Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:02:34 +0000 http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-824 I’m wondering what effect our forgotten dreams have on us? I’ve started keeping a notepad by my bed so I can write down my dreams. I find if I don’t, sometimes I’ll forget them.

]]> By: georgina http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-823 georgina Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:11:47 +0000 http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-823 Erin, i love this post.

Really, the way you say we should wake up from our lives, make a plan
and than go back to living it, well it’s so true. Every day I feel the parameters that I’ve set up for my reality, my life, and it drives me nuts.
Wish I could press Pause and rearrange the Properties, but that really takes time. Actually, it takes more thoughts than time. (IS thought faster than time?)

Yesterday I watched The Secret. Can’t wait to watch it with someone so
we can talk about it, but no one arround me speaks fluent English.

I was familiar with the Law on some level – from my own experience since childhood , and from reading one article after another on the Net, plus all the inspirational audio programms that are pointing at the very same thing. But still, I found out some new things, wich I plan on applying, as soon as my fear of letting anything in my thought passes.
Hopefully tomorrow it will be less unthinkable to me. (disambiguation)

To get back to this post, just like Lael says it, it makes me want to become a lucid dreamer even more. If not for the sake of another reality, than at least to practice fixing my Properties… ;) )

]]> By: Lael http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-822 Lael Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:51:16 +0000 http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/10/the-reality-of-the-unreal/#comment-822 Interesting post. It seems to me that since just envisioning doing something has been shown to produce similar results to actually doing it that dreams must do the same as well. However I think it’s certainly still possible that flying in your dreams might be different than flying while awake. I guess the only way to tell would be to experience something in your dreams and then experience it awake. Hopefully not getting stabbed in the gut though :)

I know I’ve read somewhere that under hypnosis people can remember what was said by the Dr’s and Nurses while under anesthesia so I wouldn’t be too quick to discount that as part of your experience just because you can’t consciously remember it. Personally I think that my consciousness is bigger than just what my ego can bring up out of my memory.

Your point on being able create your life the way you want in the same way you can create your dreams the way you want is a very interesting one. It makes me want to investigate lucid dreaming. Thanks!

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